Friday, August 27, 2010

12 Imaams Mentioned by Name Explicitly in a SaHeeH Hadeeth

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السلام عليكم

            I would like show a hadeeth that mentioned the 12 Imaams explicitly by name one after another. This is a question posed to us, if there is any SaHeeH hadeeth that EXPLICITLY mentioned the names of the 12 Imaams one after another.

            This is posed to us, because of the many different sects of Shee`ah Islaam, especially after the 6th Imaam
عليه السلام. Sometimes the major SaHabas of the Imaams went to another supposed “Imaam”.

            One a side note, this hadeeth can also be daleel (proof) for the existence of Prophet Al-Khidr
عليه السلام, and that he is still alive.

            
This hadeeth is beautiful put by our Imaam. Here is the hadeeth.

عِدَّةٌ مِنْ أَصْحَابِنَا عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ الْبَرْقِيِّ عَنْ أَبِي هَاشِمٍ دَاوُدَ بْنِ الْقَاسِمِ الْجَعْفَرِيِّ عَنْ أَبِي جَعْفَرٍ الثَّانِي ع قَالَ أَقْبَلَ أَمِيرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ع وَ مَعَهُ الْحَسَنُ بْنُ عَلِيٍّ ع وَ هُوَ مُتَّكِئٌ عَلَى يَدِ سَلْمَانَ فَدَخَلَ الْمَسْجِدَ الْحَرَامَ فَجَلَسَ إِذْ أَقْبَلَ رَجُلٌ حَسَنُ الْهَيْئَةِ وَ اللِّبَاسِ فَسَلَّمَ عَلَى أَمِيرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ فَرَدَّ عَلَيْهِ السَّلَامَ فَجَلَسَ ثُمَّ قَالَ يَا أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَسْأَلُكَ عَنْ ثَلَاثِ مَسَائِلَ إِنْ أَخْبَرْتَنِي بِهِنَّ عَلِمْتُ أَنَّ الْقَوْمَ رَكِبُوا مِنْ أَمْرِكَ مَا قُضِيَ عَلَيْهِمْ وَ أَنْ لَيْسُوا بِمَأْمُونِينَ فِي دُنْيَاهُمْ وَ آخِرَتِهِمْ وَ إِنْ تَكُنِ الْأُخْرَى عَلِمْتُ أَنَّكَ وَ هُمْ شَرَعٌ سَوَاءٌ فَقَالَ لَهُ أَمِيرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ع سَلْنِي عَمَّا بَدَا لَكَ قَالَ أَخْبِرْنِي عَنِ الرَّجُلِ إِذَا نَامَ أَيْنَ تَذْهَبُ رُوحُهُ وَ عَنِ الرَّجُلِ كَيْفَ يَذْكُرُ وَ يَنْسَى وَ عَنِ الرَّجُلِ كَيْفَ يُشْبِهُ وَلَدُهُ الْأَعْمَامَ وَ الْأَخْوَالَ فَالْتَفَتَ أَمِيرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ع إِلَى الْحَسَنِ فَقَالَ يَا أَبَا مُحَمَّدٍ أَجِبْهُ قَالَ فَأَجَابَهُ الْحَسَنُ ع فَقَالَ الرَّجُلُ أَشْهَدُ أَنْ لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا اللَّهُ وَ لَمْ أَزَلْ أَشْهَدُ بِهَا وَ أَشْهَدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّداً رَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَ لَمْ أَزَلْ أَشْهَدُ بِذَلِكَ وَ أَشْهَدُ أَنَّكَ وَصِيُّ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ص وَ الْقَائِمُ بِحُجَّتِهِ وَ أَشَارَ إِلَى أَمِيرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَ لَمْ أَزَلْ أَشْهَدُ بِهَا وَ أَشْهَدُ أَنَّكَ وَصِيُّهُ وَ الْقَائِمُ بِحُجَّتِهِ وَ أَشَارَ إِلَى الْحَسَنِ ع وَ أَشْهَدُ أَنَّ الْحُسَيْنَ بْنَ عَلِيٍّ وَصِيُّ أَخِيهِ وَ الْقَائِمُ بِحُجَّتِهِ بَعْدَهُ وَ أَشْهَدُ عَلَى عَلِيِّ بْنِ الْحُسَيْنِ أَنَّهُ الْقَائِمُ بِأَمْرِ الْحُسَيْنِ بَعْدَهُ وَ أَشْهَدُ عَلَى مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عَلِيٍّ أَنَّهُ الْقَائِمُ بِأَمْرِ عَلِيِّ بْنِ الْحُسَيْنِ وَ أَشْهَدُ عَلَى جَعْفَرِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ بِأَنَّهُ الْقَائِمُ بِأَمْرِ مُحَمَّدٍ وَ أَشْهَدُ عَلَى مُوسَى أَنَّهُ الْقَائِمُ بِأَمْرِ جَعْفَرِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ وَ أَشْهَدُ عَلَى عَلِيِّ بْنِ مُوسَى أَنَّهُ الْقَائِمُ بِأَمْرِ مُوسَى بْنِ جَعْفَرٍ وَ أَشْهَدُ عَلَى مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عَلِيٍّ أَنَّهُ الْقَائِمُ بِأَمْرِ عَلِيِّ بْنِ مُوسَى وَ أَشْهَدُ عَلَى عَلِيِّ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ بِأَنَّهُ الْقَائِمُ بِأَمْرِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عَلِيٍّ وَ أَشْهَدُ عَلَى الْحَسَنِ بْنِ عَلِيٍّ بِأَنَّهُ الْقَائِمُ بِأَمْرِ عَلِيِّ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ وَ أَشْهَدُ عَلَى رَجُلٍ مِنْ وُلْدِ الْحَسَنِ لَا يُكَنَّى وَ لَا يُسَمَّى حَتَّى يَظْهَرَ أَمْرُهُ فَيَمْلَأَهَا عَدْلًا كَمَا مُلِئَتْ جَوْراً وَ السَّلَامُ عَلَيْكَ يَا أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَ رَحْمَةُ اللَّهِ وَ بَرَكَاتُهُ ثُمَّ قَامَ فَمَضَى فَقَالَ أَمِيرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ يَا أَبَا مُحَمَّدٍ اتْبَعْهُ فَانْظُرْ أَيْنَ يَقْصِدُ فَخَرَجَ الْحَسَنُ بْنُ عَلِيٍّ ع فَقَالَ مَا كَانَ إِلَّا أَنْ وَضَعَ رِجْلَهُ خَارِجاً مِنَ الْمَسْجِدِ فَمَا دَرَيْتُ أَيْنَ أَخَذَ مِنْ أَرْضِ اللَّهِ فَرَجَعْتُ إِلَى أَمِيرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ع فَأَعْلَمْتُهُ فَقَالَ يَا أَبَا مُحَمَّدٍ أَ تَعْرِفُهُ قُلْتُ اللَّهُ وَ رَسُولُهُ وَ أَمِيرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَعْلَمُ قَالَ هُوَ الْخَضِرُ ع 


Aboo Ja`far Al-Thaanee (Imaam Al-Taqee Al-Jawaad) said: "Once Amir al-Mu’minin `Alee عليه السلام came with al-Hassan and al-Husayn and he was holding the hand of Salman for support. He entered the sacred Mosque in Makka and sat down. Then a good looking and well dressed man came. He offered the greeting of peace to Amir al-Mu’minin `Alee عليه السلام who answered his greetings likewise and he sat down. He then said, "I will ask you three questions. If you would answer them I will acknowledge that the people who have acted against you in the matters of leadership after the Holy Prophet (s.a) they have acted against their own selves. Their actions have taken away peace from them in this world as well in the next life. If it would be otherwise, (you can answer) then you and those people will be the same." Amir al-Mu’minin`Alee عليه السلام said, "Ask whatever you would like." He said, "Tell about the man who sleeps. Where does his spirit go?" Tell about the man, how he remembers and forgets? Tell me about the man how do his children become similar to the aunts and uncles?" Amir al-Mu’minin `Alee عليه السلام turned to al-Hassan and said, "O Aboo Muhammad, answer him." The narrator has said that al-Hassan answered his questions. The man then said,

"I testify that there is no lord besides Allah and I continue to testify to this fact. I testify that Muhammad صلّى الله عليه وآله is the Messenger of Allah and I continue to testify to this fact I testify that you are the executor of the will of the Messenger of Allah and that you are the in charge of this task ((Leadership with Divine Authority) with His authorization." He pointed out to Amir al-Mu’minin عليه السلام with his hand. He then said, "I continue to testify to this fact." "I testify that you are the executor of his (Amir al-Mu’minin’s عليه السلام will and the in charge of this task ((Leadership with Divine Authority) by His authorization after him (Amir alMu’minin عليه السلام " He pointed out with his hand to al-Hassan عليه السلام. Then He then said, "I continue to testify to this fact."

"I testify that al-Husayn ibn `Alee عليه السلام will be the executor of the will of his brother and the in charge of this task ((Leadership with Divine Authority) with His authorization after him. 

"I testify in support of `Alee ibn al-Husayn عليه السلام that he will be the in charge of the task of al-Husayn after him.

"I testify that Muhammad ibn `Alee will be the in charge of the task of `Alee ibn al-Husayn عليه السلام after him.

"I testify that Ja‘far ibn Muhammad عليه السلام will be the in charge of the task of Muhammad ibn `Alee عليه السلام.

"I testify that Moosa will be the in charge of the task of Ja‘far ibn Muhammad after him.

"I testify that `Alee ibn Moosa will be the in charge of the task of Moosa ibn Ja‘far عليه السلام.

"I testify that Muhammad ibn `Alee عليه السلام will be the in charge of the task of `Alee ibn Moosa عليه السلام after him.

"I testify that `Alee ibn Muhammad will be the in charge of the task of Muhammad ibn `Alee عليه السلام after him.

"I testify that al-Hassan ibn `Alee عليه السلام will be the in charge of the task of `Alee ibn Muhammad عليه السلام after him.

"I testify in support of a man from the children of al-Hassan who will not be mentioned by his Kunya (father or son of so and so) or his name until he will rise with Divine authority to fill the earth with justice after being filled with injustice."
I offer you my greeting of peace O Amir al-Mu’minin عليه السلام and praay to Allah to grant you blessings and holiness." He then stood up and left. Amir al-Mu’minin عليه السلام said, "O Aboo Muhammad follow him and see where went." Al-Hassan ibn `Alee عليه السلام went out to find out (and came back) and said, "As soon as he stepped out of the Mosque I could not figure out in which direction of the earth of Allah did he disappear. I returned to Amir al-Mu’minin عليه السلام and informed him." He said, "O Aboo Muhammad, do you know him?" I said, Allah, the Messenger of Allah and Amir al-Mu’minin عليه السلام know best." He said, "He was al-Khidr عليه السلام "
Source:
1.       Al-Kulayni, Al-Kaafi, vol. 1, pg. 525 – 526, hadeeth #1
Grading:
1.       Al-Majlisi said this hadeeth is SaHeeH (Authentic)
è Mir’aat Al-`Uqool, vol. 6, pg. 203

Here is a breakdown of the sanad (chain of narrators)

Ahmad bin Muhammad Al-Barqee is thiqah (trustworthy) according to:
1.       Ibn Dawood, Rijaal, pg. 40, person # 119
2.      Al-Najaashee, Rijaal, pg. 77, person # 182
3.      Al-Toosi, Fihrist, pg. 53, person # 65
4.      Al-Hillee, Al-KhulaaSah, pg. 15, person # 7
5.      Al-Khoei, Mu`jam Rijaal Al-Hadeeth, vol. 2, pg. 261, person # 858

Dawood bin Al-Qaasim is thiqah according to:
1.       Al-Najaashee, Rijaal, pg. 156, person # 411
2.      Al-Toosi, Fihrist, pg. 182, person # 277
3.      Al-Toosi, Rijaal, pg. 375, pg. 386, pg. 399
4.      Al-Hillee, Al-KhulaaSah, pg. 68, person # 3
5.      Al-Khoei, Mu`jam Rijaal Al-Hadeeth, vol. 7, pg. 118, person # 4419

As you can see the sanad of this narration is very small because it goes to our 9th Imaam, and the shorter the sanad the better, because it is less likely to have a mistake in transmission since this happens to be a fairly lengthy narration.

السلام عليكم

13 comments:

  1. I am more towards the view that its not sahih. Bahbudi says:

    أحمد بن محمد بن خالد بن عبدالرحمان بن محمد بن علي البرقي، منسوب إلى برقة قم، ابوجعفر أصله كوفي ثقة، غير انه كثير الرواية عن الضعفاء واعتمد المراسيل
    البهبودي يقول (… وإنّي بعد ما تتبًّعت رواياته وجدتُه يروي عن النسخ المجعولة الموضوعة على أ صحابها الثقات الإثبات كثيرا، ومنها ما كان يرويها عن داود بن القاسم الجعفري أبي هاشم، عن أبي جعفر الجواد…)، ويقصد بذك كتاب منسوب لأبي داود بن القاسم الجعفري المتوفي سنة (261) للهجرة، وهو كتاب موضوع عليه

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  2. This SaHiH hadith only exposes the nature of how Twelver Shi`ism is developed. There are hundreds of authentic ahadith indicating the ignorance of the A'immah as well the close companions about such a list with the Twelve names. One example is the pillar of Twelver Shi'ism, Zurarah b. A'yan, who didn't know that Musa b. Ja'far (رحمه الله) was the next Imam after Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq (رحمه الله). Twelver scholar Saduq gives the excuse that he did taqiyyah. While the majority said that he is excused since he died while "searching for the new Imam" (like Majlisi said which will follow soon). If such hadith existed, why should the Imam say to Zurarah in a SaHiH hadith the following:

    1 - علي بن ابراهيم، عن أبيه، عن حماد بن عيسى، عن حريز، عن زرارة قال: قال أبو عبدالله (عليه السلام): اعرف إمامك فإنك إذا عرفت لم يضرك، تقدم هذا الامر أو تأخر.

    باب أنه من عرف إمامه لم يضره تقدم هذا الأمر أو تأخر
    ( (الحديث الأول)
    (8): صحيح.

    مرآة العقول في شرح أخبار آل الرسول، ج‏4، ص: 186

    Why would he command him to know his Imam while he could just narrate this hadith with the Twelve names? I mean, it's about Zurarah b. A'yan, the mass narrator of Twelver Shi`ism.

    There are Twelve Abwab with respect to the nusus of each Imam regarding their Imamate, why didn't one of them ever present this hadith as hujjah for his Imamate? Not one such hadith is narrated as nass for Imamah, refer to the 12 abwab in al-Kafi, book Hujjah which starts like: باب الاشارة والنص على أمير المؤمنين(ع)
    And so on.

    Take this hadith also in consideration, authenticated by Majlisi:

    1 - محمد بن يحيى، عن محمد بن الحسين، عن صفوان، عن يعقوب بن شعيب قال:

    قلت لابي عبدالله (عليه السلام): إذا حدث على الامام حدث، كيف يصنع الناس؟ قال:
    أين قول الله عزوجل: " فلولا نفر من كل فرقة منهم طائفة ليتفقهوا في الدين و لينذروا قوهم إذا رجعوا إليهم لعلهم يحذرون (2) " قال: هم في عذر ما داموا في الطلب وهؤلاء الذين ينتظرونهم في عذر، حتى يرجع إليهم أصحابهم.

    Note the comment of Majlisi and how he uses this SaHiH hadith to save Zurarah b. A'yan from his ignorance about the next Imam after Ja'far al-Sadiq:

    مرآة العقول في شرح أخبار آل الرسول، ج‏4، ص: 227
    (الحديث الأول)
    (3): صحيح.

    و الحدث‏
    (4) بالتحريك المصيبة و المراد هنا الموت، و يدل على الوجوب كفاية على النائين عن بلد الإمام أن ينفر جماعة منهم للعلم بتعيين الإمام بعد الإمام و أنه لا بد من‏

    (Continuing next page)
    مرآة العقول في شرح أخبار آل الرسول، ج‏4، ص: 228

    العلم بالتعيين، و أن لا يكفي العلم بوجود إمام بعده مجملا، هذا مع القدرة و أما مع عدمها فيكفي ذلك كما فعل زرارة رضي الله عنه، و كذا لو مات في الطلب أو الانتظار، و بذلك يخرجون عن كون موتهم ميتة جاهلية، ثم هذا مع العلم بعدم خلو العصر من الإمام ظاهر، و أما مع عدم العلم بذلك و وجوب الطلب و عدم تمام الحجة عليه في ذلك فمشكل.

    This is only to show the other side of the story, researchers are free to thoroughly research this and decide for their selves.

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  3. Bismillah,

    Brother, this narration is from the 9th Imam, Imam Muhammad ibn Ali al-Jawad.

    Zurara bin `Ayan did recognize the Imaamah of Musa ibn Ja'afar (as).

    From a narration from Kitab al-Irshad, the very ending:

    "Then we met Zurara and Abu Basir. They went to him, listened to his words and questioned him. They asserted his Imamate. We met wave after wave of the people. Everyone who went to him, declared (his Imamate) except for the group of Ammar al-Sabati. Abd Allah persisted in his claim but only a few of the people came to him."

    Just because Sunnis do not see the legitimacy of taqqiya doesn't mean the Imams (ahs) didn't have to employ it and that it isn't a valid reason.If this hadith was mass narrated like you believe it should have been, the oppressors would know who the Imams were and would have killed them.

    How unfortunate it is that the Aimmah (as) of the Ahlulbayt of Rasulullah (pbhf) could not speak as freely as him.

    maa Salaama

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  4. Asalam Alaikum,

    Why there was so much confusion about who will be the next Imam? If they are appointed by Allah, then why there was confusion.

    The Ismaelis believed in their Imams after Imam Jafer and many other shia sects.

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  5. Oddly there has always been confusion when it's come to the commands of Allah. One thinks of Bani Israel and the way they constantly disobeyed their Prophet, despite clear orders.

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  6. By Allah no one undermines ahmed ibn muhamed al-barqi(rta)or any pious shia but a hypocrite. This man Ahsan is not worth the dirt sheikh al-barqi(rta) walks upon. The hadith is sahih indeed without a doubt and bahbudi who is a majhool doesn't have any authority whatsoever and his knowledge of hadith is close to zero as he hasn't got a clear-cut scientific approach in studying hadiths and their asaneed and grading them.

    Now the confusion about the imams is a fact and this is the way Allah is testing the believers and these hadiths about the name of the twelves were known to some shia companions of rasool allah and imams but were not publicly declared until later because of fear for the lives of the imams and this hadith in particular was narrated before birth of sahib zaman (as)

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  7. Assalaamu 'Alaykum,

    Bahboodee's opinion on this is very shaadh (odd). It shouldn't be taken. No other old school scholar has even came out with this opinion. Al-Kulaynee has put this hadeeth in his Al-Kaafee, as well as, Shaykh Sadooq has put this hadeeth in Kamaal al-Deen.

    Bahboodee grades Ahmad bin Muhammad al-Barqee da'eef, which NO smart minded scholar would ever do.

    Some people's contention is that Ahmad bin Muhammad al-Barqee narrated from Du'afaa`? Then why does he narrate this hadeeth from a thiqah narrator (Daawood bin Al-Qaasim: Graded by Majlisee, Najaashee, Toosee, Hillee, Khu'ee)? If I wanted to go through all the narrators Ahmad narrates from that are thiqah, I am sure I can give you a laundry list, but that is not the aim of this post.

    The full sanad to this hadeeth is SAHEEH, also the tareeq to Shaykh Sadooq is SaHeeH (according to Khu'ee):

    حدثنا أبي و محمد بن الحسن رضي الله عنهما قالا حدثنا سعد بن عبد الله و عبد الله بن جعفر الحميري و محمد بن يحيى العطار و أحمد بن إدريس جميعا قالوا حدثنا أحمد بن أبي عبد الله البرقي قال حدثنا أبو هاشم داود بن القاسم الجعفري عن أبي جعفر الثاني محمد بن علي

    Narrators in this hadeeth:
    Shaykh Sadooq's father
    Muhammad bin al-Hasan (ibn Waleed)
    Sa'd bin 'Abd Allaah
    'Abd Allaah bin Ja'far al-Himyaree
    Muhammad bin YaHyaa al-aTTaar
    Ahmad bin Idrees
    Ahmad bin Muhammad al-Barqee
    Dawood bin Al-Qaasim

    Also, there is another tareeq to Dawood from Shaykh Sadooq in Al-TawHeed:

    وَ فِي كِتَابِ التَّوْحِيدِ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ مُوسَى بْنِ الْمُتَوَكِّلِ عَنِ السَّعْدَآبَادِيِّ عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ عَنْ دَاوُدَ بْنِ الْقَاسِمِ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ عَلَيَّ بْنَ مُوسَى الرِّضَا ع‏

    This is also SaHeeH.

    He has another chain in 'ilal al-sharaa`3:

    مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَلِيِّ بْنِ الْحُسَيْنِ فِي الْعِلَلِ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنْ سَعْدٍ عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ الْبَرْقِي‏

    This is also SaHeeH.

    This is not the only time the chain (for the 12 Imaam hadeeth) has been used by the way. This chain is also narrated in Wasaa'il al-Shee'ah by Shaykh Hurr al-'Aamilee (vol. 7, pg. 199), who takes from the book of 'Uyoon al Akhbaar by Shaykh Sadooq.

    وَ فِي عُيُونِ الْأَخْبَارِ عَنْ أَبِيهِ وَ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْحَسَنِ عَنْ سَعْدٍ وَ الْحِمْيَرِيِّ وَ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ يَحْيَى وَ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ إِدْرِيسَ كُلِّهِمْ عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ الْبَرْقِيِّ عَنْ أَبِي هَاشِمٍ دَاوُدَ بْنِ الْقَاسِمِ الْجَعْفَرِيِّ عَنْ أَبِي جَعْفَرٍ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عَلِيٍّ ع‏

    By the way, Bahboodee then says, on the same page of his book Ma'rifah al-Hadeeth, that Dawood bin al-Qaasim only gave to Du'afaa` and didn't give to approved thiqah narrators (he puts Ahmad bin Muhammad al-Barqee under the Du'afaa`)...

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  8. I went through some ahaadeeth in Wasaa'il. Here are some of the thiqaat he gives to (Graded thiqah by the ijma' of the scholars):
    Ibraaheem bin Haashim
    Ahmad bin Muhammad al-Barqee
    Zakariya bin YaHya al-Tameemee

    Now thiqaat he gave to in Al-Kaafee:
    Muhammad bin 'Eesa
    Ahmad bin Muhammad al-Barqee

    In 'ilaam al-wara by FaDl bin Hasan al-Tabarsee, he gives to:
    Sa'd bin 'Abd Allaah
    Ibraaheem bin Haashim
    'Abd Allaah bin Ja'far al-Himyaree

    Considering Dawood doesn't have many ahaadeeth anyways, these 7 different thiqaat people are more than I have seen him give to da'eef narrators.

    Also notice that he gets from the best of the best narrators, which makes sense that this hadeeth which has all the 12 Imaams names be put in there. You would want your best of the best narrators to keep such a hadeeth.

    Finally, Dawood isn't only getting stuff directly from the Imaams (AS). It is also possible that he is getting stuff from 'Alee bin Mahziyaar, who is also thiqah. And 'Alee bin Mahziyaar is getting things from the book of Imaam Baaqir (AS). (Wasaa'il al-Shee'ah, vol. 23, pg. 264)

    قَرَأْتُ فِي كِتَابٍ لِأَبِي جَعْفَرٍ ع إِلَى دَاوُدَ بْنِ الْقَاسِمِ أَنِّي قَدْ جِئْتُ وَ حَيَاتِك‏

    Also, here is another narration from Kashshee's pg. 447 rijaal with a SaHeeH isnaad, speaking about a book from Yoonus bin 'Abd al-RaHmaan, who is thiqah, that Daawood bin al-Qaasim had:
    و قال شيخنا أبو عبد الله محمد بن محمد بن النعمان في كتاب مصابيح النور: أخبرني الشيخ الصدوق أبو القاسم جعفر بن محمد بن قولويه رحمه الله قال: حدثنا علي بن الحسين بن بابويه قال: حدثنا عبد الله بن جعفر الحميري قال: قال لنا أبو هاشم داود بن القاسم الجعفري رحمه الله‏

    عرضت على أبي محمد عليه السلام كتاب يوم و ليلة ليونس فقال لي: تصنيف من هذا؟ فقلت تصنيف يونس مولى آل يقطين. فقال: أعطاه الله بكل حرف نورا يوم القيامة. و مدائح يونس كثيرة ليس هذا موضعها

    In a way this also gives Yoonus bin 'Abd al-RaHmaan's works more tawtheeq, it says to praise him alot.

    All in all, there is not much evidence to overturn the NaSS of the 12 Imaam hadeeth. If anything, the evidence is very substantial for this hadeeth to be accepted. One who does not accept this hadeeth, has not accepted Shee'ah Islaam and has called a SaHeeH narration da'eef.

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  9. Alsalam alaykum all,

    Interesting stuff you folks have here. I've been reading up on this hadith and there seems to be some more evidence against it. The most obvious one is the opinion of Mohammed bin Yahya after the end of the second hadith where he says he wishes this hadith wasn't narrated by Al-Barqi.

    It isn't necessarily because he is a liar, but maybe it is because of the excessive mursal narrations.

    Here is something from Al-Mahasin to ponder over:

    عنه عن أبيه عن أبي هاشم الجعفري رفعالحديث قال قال أبو عبد الله (ع) دخل أمير المؤمنين (ص) المسجد و معه الحسن (ع) فدخل رجل

    Check the chain. ;)

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  10. is narrations of 12 imams found in books written before the birth of 12 th imam such as book of suliem ,sahifa e sajjadia , fiqh ali raza etc.

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  11. The greatest muhaddis ahle hadith imam ilm ul rijal hafiz zubair ali zai of maktabah tul hadith hazro attock pakistan has sent a message for you that the chain is not sahih.

    He has few reservations which he wants to discuss with you.(according to the rules of ilmul rijaal)

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    Maktabah tul hadith hazro attock pakistan.

    2)The grand mufti Muhaddis Muhammad ishaq madani also wants to discuss about this chain according to the rules of ilm ul rijal.

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    0300-7941757

    3)Engr MUHAMMAD Ali mirza the young brilliant speaker and hadith student also wants to discuss about this chain

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    I request you to please contact these muhaddith scholars as soon as possible and after discussion inform.

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  12. http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/235018593-question-about-ahl-albaitra/

    1.If the determination of Ahl Albait(ra.) is with hadith Al Kissa, then who made Ahl Albait(ra.) from 5 to14 people?

    2.Where Allah(swt.) or the prophet(saw.) declared the children of Imam Hussein(ra.) to Ahl Albait(ra.),and who excluded the children of Imam Ali(ra.) and Imam Hassan(ra.)?????



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  13. It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, it doesn't matter if you started that fight or not.. Just do it! Be the one who forgives.
    Hafiz Ahmed Raza Qadri Naats

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