tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post7954341178817909672..comments2024-03-10T07:55:27.062-07:00Comments on Reviving Al-Islaam: 3rd Testimony in Adhaan and Iqaamah = Bid'ah (Innovation)Nader Zaverihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12550069168488631827noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-63126570795058358602018-11-06T07:09:21.018-08:002018-11-06T07:09:21.018-08:00This narration is hujjah on us and there are so ma...This narration is hujjah on us and there are so many other narrations which talk about how the whole of the prophets bore witness to 3rd shahadat and how Ali (as) is the essence of adhaan and salah itself. The problem with Mr. Zaveri and his likes is that they love to weaken everything in the light of Ilm e rijaal. But on the contrary to these narrations, the opponents of 3rd testimony cannot bring any other narrations which condemn those who recite 3rd shahadat.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04966385376347425573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-36174923441246032032016-07-03T07:06:56.912-07:002016-07-03T07:06:56.912-07:00The third testimony is a not a Bid'a
Thats an...The third testimony is a not a Bid'a <br />Thats an insult to the Imams!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182575947891266275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-33307336179759800772015-10-17T15:38:08.878-07:002015-10-17T15:38:08.878-07:00ash hadu anna ameeral mumineen ali ibne abi taalib...ash hadu anna ameeral mumineen ali ibne abi taalibAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-73591838607508983962014-05-18T08:10:17.937-07:002014-05-18T08:10:17.937-07:00Funny how the writer didnt state whether the hadit...Funny how the writer didnt state whether the hadith is authentic or not from sources he doesnt like.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-78310622354543094812013-08-16T20:46:15.165-07:002013-08-16T20:46:15.165-07:00Salam,
I want to share this brother, it's an ...Salam,<br /><br />I want to share this brother, it's an excerpt dua from the book "Prayers Of The Final Prophet" #19. HIS DHIKR WHEN HE HEARD THE ADHÀN, Compiled by 'Allamah Sayyid Muhammad Husayn Taba’taba’i<br />Translated by Tahir Ridha Jaffer. <br /><br />This might help brother Nader. From the dua of the Prophet(s) when "Adhan" was finished, the Noble Prophet(s.a.w.a.)called it a "perfect call" so no more no less.<br />#53. In al-Da'aim: It has been narrated to us from 'Ali ibn al-Husayn(A.S.)<br /> that when the Noble Prophet heard the 'Adhan, he would<br />repeat what the mua’dhin said, and when he said:<br /><br />Hurry to the prayer. Hurry to success. Hurry to the best of actions,he said: There is no power and no might but by (the will of) Allah.<br /><br />And when the call to prayer was completed, he said: O Allah! Lord of this perfect call and established prayer,<br />grant Muhammad his request on the day of Judgment, and raise his status to the means of reaching paradise and<br />accept his intercession for his Ummah.(60)<br /><br /><br />Notes for Section Two<br /><br />(60)Da'aaim al-Islam 1:145, Fayd al-Qadir 5:143<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-27910799378615746162013-07-13T00:31:33.449-07:002013-07-13T00:31:33.449-07:00apne maqsad ke liye hadees ko unknown sabit kar di...apne maqsad ke liye hadees ko unknown sabit kar diya apne wasayelush shia ka hawal dia h usme to azan ki fusul 38 hain ab boliye kya kahiyega Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14307309549131325359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-42406791553426754452013-03-03T00:20:54.595-08:002013-03-03T00:20:54.595-08:00Dear Mr. Nader
Our current marjeh are more litera...Dear Mr. Nader<br /><br />Our current marjeh are more literate then you and possess more knowledge than you. They have attained education for decades and than obtained the right of calling themselves a marjeh.<br /><br />They are well aware than of you of all the practices followed by Shia Muslims around the globe as a lot of shia scholars from different countries visit them daily.<br /><br />You by just conducting small research and just for few days, does not possess the right of writing blogs that can create divided opinions and tensions among shia muslims.<br /><br />If it would have been a bidat our current marjeh would have already issued a fatwa asking shia muslims to refrain themselves for this act.<br /><br />And, if you really think you are right of what you said, get us a fatwa attested by any of the current marjeh.<br /><br />Waslam.Zeeshan Razahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00552997852316731679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-35832674414811508302012-09-03T00:45:27.502-07:002012-09-03T00:45:27.502-07:00dear Nader Zaveri , i dont know whether to appreci...dear Nader Zaveri , i dont know whether to appreciate you for the blog or diaasociate myself from your biased writing phzamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15247906004619496180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-10381079638954280172012-09-03T00:13:05.987-07:002012-09-03T00:13:05.987-07:00The only reply I would like to add here is:
Our M...The only reply I would like to add here is:<br /><br />Our Maraje keraam are far more learned and deeply delved in knowledge and experience than you or anyone else who writes such blogs.<br /><br />It is impossible to even consider for a moment that our Ulamae keraam would allow an innovation to continue. Hence it becomes incumbent upon you to go and ask them reasons behind their fatawa. This should be the only approach if your intention is not to divide muslim ummah.<br /><br />Wassalam.Ali Sarmadi Rizvihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02507572652130301980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-5411201071268438492011-08-19T00:28:59.565-07:002011-08-19T00:28:59.565-07:00No, this is not hypocritical. I am merely giving t...No, this is not hypocritical. I am merely giving the gradings of his hadeeth. Every single hadeeth that al-Majlisi grades, I have double checked the gradings myself. I just put al-Majlisi's grading, so people can see a scholars grading, and not just me saying such and such is SaHeeH.Nader Zaverihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12550069168488631827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-37533074635679687762011-08-18T18:50:11.469-07:002011-08-18T18:50:11.469-07:00Nader Brother.
You are indirectly calling Al Majli...Nader Brother.<br />You are indirectly calling Al Majlisi a Person who allows a Bida, yet you are taking his gradings about Ahadith all over your website.<br />What makes you so sure he didnt do Bida in this too?<br />Isnt that some sort of hypocracy in your humble opinion?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-76994896966280864642011-05-03T21:44:17.463-07:002011-05-03T21:44:17.463-07:00That is great brother. Check out other blog posts ...That is great brother. Check out other blog posts brother. I talk about other bid`ah and many other sunan acts that have been lost.Nader Zaverihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12550069168488631827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-45019555195250254002011-04-30T07:39:37.969-07:002011-04-30T07:39:37.969-07:00I am happy that I came across this blog concering ...I am happy that I came across this blog concering the 3rd kalimah in the adhan because I have been wondering about it since I became aware that there were different opinions about it. Now, I intend to believe that it is a bid'ah too. I usaully hear brother's justification on this and why the scholars allow this is because for about 90 years, the Ummayads use to curse Ali's name in their khutbahs. But when you reflect on this, non of the Imams has authorized this. The statement is true, concerning Ali's status, but it should not be use to replace the Sunnah of Allah and His Prophet for Allah says"....wa lan tadila li-sunnatillahi tabdeel." "... and never shalt thou find in the sunnah of Allah any change" 33:62. I pray to Allah to keep me on the straight path.jafar313https://www.blogger.com/profile/09360060849522858349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-28074832288855381022011-02-13T01:27:20.127-08:002011-02-13T01:27:20.127-08:00Brother Adeel, I have already taken out this tradi...Brother Adeel, I have already taken out this tradition that the people quote from iHtijaaj, and I talked about the weakness. I wouldn't say our `ulemaa are ignorant, they know of the opinions of our classical scholars.Nader Zaverihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12550069168488631827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-57852684870464835772011-02-12T00:51:38.906-08:002011-02-12T00:51:38.906-08:00http://www.shahadat-e-salisa.com/home/the-third-sh...http://www.shahadat-e-salisa.com/home/the-third-shahadah-in-tashahhud-of-namaz<br /><br />i found this link while searching about 3rd testimony in tashahud...<br /><br />mostly the tradition quoted by people is:<br /><br />قال امام صادق علیه السلام : اذا قال احدكم لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله فلیقل علی امیر المومنین ولی الله.<br /><br />Imam Jafar Sadiq (as) says: “When any one from you says ‘La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammadan Rasool Allah” then he must say ‘Alian Wali Allah’. <br /><br />[Ref: Al-Ehtejaaj Vol: 1 Pg: 230 / Bihar Al Anwar Vol: 27 Hadees: 1]<br /><br />I DONT KNOW TO EXTENT DOES THIS HADITH IS SAHEEH<br /><br /><br />and there also included a NOTE ON THE AUTHENTICITY OF ""Fiqh Ar Raza ""<br /><br />Bro i am a student and beleive that 3rd testimony is Bidah but when i find these traditions so it create confusions ... why our some ULEMAS are so ignorant ..!!adeelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-63247643256431404902011-02-10T20:10:43.590-08:002011-02-10T20:10:43.590-08:00The only source that mentions 3rd testimony in tas...The only source that mentions 3rd testimony in tashahhud is from the book called Fiqh Al-RiDaa (sometimes called Fiqh Al-RaDawee), which is considered to be a fabrication upon the name of Imaam Al-RiDaa (AS). Some people say that it was the book of Al-Sadooq's father, but when you look at Rijaal books you never see any mention of this book under the books that he authored.<br /><br />It seems as if the first time this book appeared is during the Safawid dynasty. Al-Majlisi doesnt' give the tareeq (path) on how he has received this book, which previous scholars. So for us to analyze that is impossible.<br /><br />Also, in this book in the wuDoo portion it is said for the person to "wash" his feet. Which is of course against the very beliefs of the shee`ah, we are suppose to "wipe" as the Qur'aan has ordered us to.<br /><br />So since the only shee`ah hadeeth that talks about 3rd testimony stems from a book that is either considered a fabrication or not authentic, then this is automatically considered weak.Nader Zaverihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12550069168488631827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-13008042243266043952011-02-07T07:56:15.969-08:002011-02-07T07:56:15.969-08:00Nader bro ...!
now a days some people are recitin...Nader bro ...!<br /><br />now a days some people are reciting عَلِيّاً وَلِيُّ اللَّهِ even in TASHOD...specially in PAKISTAN<br /><br />and this is very wrong , so also look into this matter and give me ahadith regarding this TOPIC ... plzadeelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-89528026749403776792011-01-04T02:15:04.207-08:002011-01-04T02:15:04.207-08:00Sister Farwa,
I, myself, haven't determined i...Sister Farwa,<br /><br />I, myself, haven't determined if these aHaadeeth are authentic or weak, but `Allaamah Al-Majlisi, compiler of Bihaar Al-Anwaar have stated that the hadeeth is authentic, not me.<br /><br />welcome to the blog, I hope you enjoy reading the various articles!Nader Zaverihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12550069168488631827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-11557795983316021242010-12-30T04:53:25.468-08:002010-12-30T04:53:25.468-08:00Salam,
I was wondering that you have posted some ...Salam,<br /><br />I was wondering that you have posted some very strong ahdith going against the inclusion of the third testimony, so what would you have to say about marja's like ayt. sistani and ayt. khamenie allowing it? if you have asked them on this matter, i would be grateful if you shared it here.<br />Apart from that it would also be great if you could state how you have determined these ahdith to be strong or weak.Deli-ciosohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05047573156512150798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-91827372172494592782010-10-10T07:19:16.583-07:002010-10-10T07:19:16.583-07:00salam
the first hadith posted by nader is weak b...salam <br /><br />the first hadith posted by nader is weak because of mohamed ibn issa ibn ubaid (the man is such a decever and big liar and he managed to fool some of our scholars but he was exposed by sheikh ibn alwaleed and others and also sheikh tusi )<br /><br />but yes adhan doesn't include the third shahadah and it is indeed a bid'a and we have sahih hadiths confirming the right adhan without it.<br /><br />wswasilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-73463247784949712692010-08-24T16:48:58.044-07:002010-08-24T16:48:58.044-07:00Baqir Majlisi further corrupted the shia.
Baqir ...Baqir Majlisi further corrupted the shia. <br /><br />Baqir Majlisi says "There is nothing left between us and the Arabs but slaughter"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-36189813568898447452010-06-30T11:11:54.443-07:002010-06-30T11:11:54.443-07:00Yes i think this still here more to "differen...Yes i think this still here more to "different" from the majority i believe rather than deen unfortunately.MR.Atomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15042821817334633634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3962955340723370670.post-55558141074774944242010-06-26T01:05:27.698-07:002010-06-26T01:05:27.698-07:00It is bidahtul Hassanah- as Umar (ra) reported to ...It is bidahtul Hassanah- as Umar (ra) reported to have said about tarawiah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com